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Author Topic: Installing the new smartcraft/NMEA 2000 gauge+gateway - First Looks/Test w/ pics  (Read 10266 times)
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« on: September 30, 2009, 07:40:50 PM »

The new NMEA2000/Merc monitor finally breaks down the walls between Smartcraft and NMEA 2000 devices. If you have not followed the "Sony Beta" (Merc) vs "Panasonic VHS” (NMEA 2000) war waged by by Merc and the rest of the industry, do some reading, that’s another whole discussion.
The simple fact is many of us using Smartcraft enjoyed many years of digital features way before the rest of the industry produced NMEA 2000. This is a look at a prototype that Merc gave me. I received it with no installation instructions. That was their plan, to see if a non professional could hook it up. It is a prototype, but it is running the release software, so what you see is what you will get. Merc has released their marketing "sell sheet" here:

Click here to download the Merc PDF

Suffice to say after Merc exited the Navman/Northstar fiasco, cooler heads prevailed and they have came out with a gateway/gauge “for the rest of us.” (i.e. The other 99% of the electronics world.) They are doing it in the form of a Merc gauge that easily replaces the speedo or tach (or even just an extra) which now adds many new functions to the boat. I might add here that some are confused as there used to be smartcraft tachs and speedos....no more - there is only one gauge with a myriad of selections so every monitor is what you want it to be: tach OR speedo (or just fuel flow meter, or tank meter, etc). It DISPLAYS only one engine itself if you go to the RPM page (for example), but TRANSMITS ALL THE MOTOR(S) DATA TO THE CHARTPLOTTER.. That's why I got one gauge and replaced my SC1000 speedo. It is truly is a perfect example of the way everything is going these days: a MULTIFUNCTION DISPLAY - or MFD...I should add that sending Merc data to other devices such as the chartplotter is a neat feature. But in no way does anyone NEED this feature, if you already have any of the excellent Smartcraft gauges, Systemview or Vesselview. This may change in the future as more mfrs learn to work with this protocol.  The only place I can see this being extremely invaluable now, is a 2nd station tower or fly bridge, you could do it all with one networked screen such as a Garmin 4208, Furuno MFD8, Ray E90W or Simrad NSE.

The box I got from Merc had a few extra parts but with each monitor you’ll get the gauge, harness, NMEA drop cables, NMEA “T” and terminator plug to expand your N2K current backbone.


Honestly, it took me all of 10 min to get up and running with no tools.
1.   Remove old smartcraft speedo and harness from junction box
2.   Plug in new harness to J box, and in same hole tighten collar for new speedo
3.   Connect the NMEA cable on the harness to your backbone, adding a T and end plug.
4.    Take the fuse out of the harness holder - you do not use this power connection. Set the Garmin in NMEA 2000 setup to "output bridging on".
5.    Once EVERYTHING is hooked up and all electronics and ignition is on, are running - hit the "autoconfigure" - not before


Now  on to the fun stuff. The gauge ,like the prev merc  monitors,  can show in 6 diff colors – it will auto switch contrast as dusk via the GPS clock. I chose red. A small clever touch is you can configure the start up screen so it has your boat name or whatever on it instead of "Mercury". 
Here’s my boat name and opening icon:

And how it integrates into the dash – (big blue gauge)

The total dash with Vesselview, Garmin, Smartcraft tachs and links and Mercmonitor:

So I turned on the motors and everything worked immediately. It went thru a “autoconfigure” mode .I had to re-set the fuel capacity and instantly the analog smartcraft link gauge came alive using the default method.

And the biggest news of all, no more of that “hook your speedo to your GPS using the blue white wires from your GPS. “ The NMEA cable to the backbone supplies data BOTH WAYS: engine data TO the GPS, and GPS data BACK to the speedo – for all your “fuel to waypoint”, digital speed and accurate mpg that the speedo had when hooked to GPS. Make sure the output bridging is on in the garmin configure menu.

Here’s the Garmin 4210 with NO tweaking or fiddling:
The fuel screen

the motors screen

overalying fuel data on chart


And here’s the best thing: the gateway inside the gauge. A single gauge supplies ALL data to the GPS  for ALL engines – you just choose single/twin/trip/quad in the gateway setup. It figures out everything else. Clarification: It is a common misconception that all engines show on this gauge like a Vesselview. Yes, it supplies ALL engines to the NMEA 2000 system but only shows on the gauge the one engine it is connected to.


Favorites are back (and soon to come to vesselview) – so you can choose out of the 35 screens avail WHICH ones you want to see and which ones should go away (generator, waste tank, etc) and then how fast you want them to rotate in seconds.


Finally, There is a new mode called “ECO MODE”. I have not played with it yet and still am waiting for the manual, bur suffice to say you plug in the parameters you want here:


And then you run the boat and it evaluates how economical  you’re running. Once I understand this more, I’ll  do another  write up on it.


Click here for another look at the ECO function

So that it. Thanks Merc for the easy set up and finally making everything work together on my dash.


UPDATE 12/20: If you have Bennett tabs - ( or I think any analog tabs) that have an indicator on the dash, you can dump it and the tab setting will be sent to the monitor also, freeing up dash space...All that is involved is buying the GBT10 cable adapter from garmin - it translates bennett info to the NMEA backbone and then to the MercMonitor.

Click here for the Garmin/Bennett Adaptor

and written about here:

http://www.veradoclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=2571.0

UPDATE: a nice write up about it here:  From Panbo.com

The two gauges for sale on the veradoclub parts site here:

Click here

The draft owner's manual in PDF downloaded below (if you are a member)
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 10:38:37 PM »

Sweeet! Got a SC5000 System view and Lowrance HDS-8M, thinking the Level 2 is the call for me (single engine). Which one did you buy Glen? Where did ya source it or rather where shall I? I know my local dealer is pricey Sad. Great techs though.

This may avoid me buying any Livorsi gauges this winter but will see on that Smiley.

Thanks again Glen!
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 10:46:18 PM »



Why does anyone go anywhere else but Andy? I don't make any money from him, but he gives great service and prices which is why I asked him to do it....

http://www.veradoclubparts.com/

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 11:16:58 PM »

I buy lots from Andy, but his site only sells certain items. I did not realize I could order items not listed?! (not the new gateway and gauge I mean let's say a SC5000 plastic cover I lost for example this month and got cranked on locally).

Trust me quickleen is 15 clams here at my local dealer! I just got a bunch in this week in fact from Andy Smiley.
If I can can order Any Merc part from Andy I will  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 11:25:41 PM »

Andy is an authorized Merc dealer - He can get anything...
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2009, 09:48:34 AM »

This sounds very cool.

I'm planning on getting brand new SC1000 Speedo & Tach guages in about a week or two. I'm thinking about getting the Smartcraft trim guage too. Should I wait for this new stuff?

I have a single 135 Verado engine.

I've looked at the Excel file 2nd tab (Flow) and I'm a bit confused with the 4 choices. I don't see the "Pro" listed on the first tab either. I know it is early in the process and you guys might not know a lot yet either, but I thought I'd ask.

The good news, is that my boat came with a crappy basic Fish Finder with no GPS on it. So I'm looking at incorporating that too sometime soon. It is getting towards the end of the fishing season and I figure the year-end inventory sales are coming soon.

I'm planning on getting one of those really nice units that have the fish finder and GPS units combined in one, maybe even the real time sonar, if I can convince my wife that $2800 is not a crazy amount of money to spend on just one unit.

That should give me some quality GPS verified speed at normal speeds. I guess I'll need a paddle well to get good speed read-outs at low speeds? I am also assuming that this unit (which will be certified to work with SmartCraft guages) will work really nicely with the new guage posted on this article.

These new guages only report 7 Verado alarms? I though there were over 100 different alarms? An idea what is goign on there?

Some of these questions may be seriously jumping-the-gun, so please say so.


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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 05:36:44 PM »

All you will need is one gauge to do it all. No more tach and speedo unless you want that. . The 7 alarms are ones sent to the gps but all still register on the smartcraft...

stay tuned...don't buy anything until this all sorts out in December or so....

and the best small 1200 dollar GPS is the garmin 546S - N2000 ready and I can sell them all day long for 1100 with the ducer...
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 07:28:27 AM »

Very good advise Glen, as usual. Thanks.

Late last evening I told the dealer to forget about it. Besides, he was trying to gouge me for the SC1000 Speedo & Tach as well as the Smartcraft Trim guage. He quoted me $2150CDN installed, plus 13% tax up here in Ontario.

I phoned Andy (Verado Parts Club, of course) and he quoted me about $750USD plus about $50USD shipping and there is no tax. Install should be dead simple as the holes are all the same size. I'll probably just do it myself over the winter or in the early spring.

This will be a big project for me, but I enjoy the planning and the work...I'm just not that thrilled about working with electricity. I'll be getting lots of help and advice from a professional on that portion of it. And of curse I'll be updatign this website with the progess adn askign you guys for advice too.

It is a brand new boat, so it has almost nothing on it. I'm ordering in 'bare bones' as we have had enormous problems with the dealer and I just don't trust them to do anything but basic boat building. It will be a 20' boat with a 135HP Verado on it and one AGM battery (which they of course gouged me $400 for).


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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 07:44:35 PM »

In addition to water and oil pressure, a new feature is  "fuel pressure" - should help diagnose pump and float problems....



and a bit more on the "eco" program:

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 09:30:28 PM »

Glen, I just read the post for the Merc NMEA2000 wiring kit and gauge, I will check w/ my Merc dealer for it--- but how did you adjust the colors in background of gauges?  Is that in the manual?
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 09:36:02 PM »

yes - it's a menu selection - none of what I wrote is avail - don't bother going to the dealer yet....

and don't let him tell you he has the merc monitors already - they are not NMEA 2000 monitors....

and I have no idea if it works with Northstar/Navman stuff - I don't think they are NMEA 2000
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 09:38:52 PM »

Ok, Gotcha.  Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 11:36:28 PM »

glen, i just bought the new mercmonitor about 1 month ago, do u think i messed up by not waiting?? i dont understand what nmea 200 is..could u explain to me??
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 11:45:34 PM »

glen, i just bought the new mercmonitor about 1 month ago, do u think i messed up by not waiting?? i dont understand what nmea 200 is..could u explain to me??

You can add another monitor and get what you need - read my post in the free section of exactly what the new monitor does - basically it sends engine data to your chartplotter if it can take it - google nmea 2000
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2009, 03:24:24 PM »

Here's another nice thing if you are running vesselview and it is combining your fuel flow into one number. The gateway splits it back out so you can see all your fuel burns - on your chartplattor like here on my gamin 4210:
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